wingcross Says:
I am agree partly with what kirk hav said. Partly i disagree as we musnt forget, all things started good in the begining may rots in the end as well. There is always a possibility. Do not forget this could be a disguise. The mormon church started well too. Lucifer was an archangel isnt?, he was good in the first place.
But the contents is like more to the human imagination. I havent read the book, but I have heard about aborted babies and other issues in ppl reviews which are mentioned in her book.
A fig doesnt come from thistle. What we sow, we reap. The fruits doesnt come in one day. Remember what happen to “Children of the God” ministry ? It started well, so many ppl joined. and what happen to it now ? Slowly the fruit are revealed. Just becareful with what we read. Not everything we read pleasant will produced a good fruit in our life.
From what I have read from other ppl positive reviews, the book is just too good, too straight forward. Its too heavenly. Our motive being a christian is to learn the truth. Not just about going to Heaven. Do not be clouded by that desire.
Too add up something i read recently, I have heard in the 1970-1980s, there is a book/article about heaven as well, Heavenly Hash, by Mary Baxter, which she claimed she was taken to heaven and to hell.
There are ppl who say that this book seems to contradicts Thomas’s book. I try to find the former article, but couldnt find.
http://www.pfo.org/heavenly.htm
About This Blog
This blog is a compilation of comments I received in my post about Heaven is So Real which I wrote in my other blog at In His Time.
The author of the book is Choo Thomas, a Korean-American lady who is currently living in the States. The book is all about her experience being brought to heaven and hell by Jesus, about her preparation and training by Jesus himself for the ministry that God has planned for her. The book is a wake up call to all Christians to prepare them for the second coming of Christ. Not all who call themselves Christian will go to heaven. Read "The Parable of the Wedding Banquet" Matt 22. Only those that are pure-hearted and obedient can enter heaven. "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God" Matt 5:8. In the book, Jesus mentioned that He would be coming sooner than we expected.
Many have doubts about the book; Heaven is So Real. Read about what others have to say about Heaven is So Real.
The author of the book is Choo Thomas, a Korean-American lady who is currently living in the States. The book is all about her experience being brought to heaven and hell by Jesus, about her preparation and training by Jesus himself for the ministry that God has planned for her. The book is a wake up call to all Christians to prepare them for the second coming of Christ. Not all who call themselves Christian will go to heaven. Read "The Parable of the Wedding Banquet" Matt 22. Only those that are pure-hearted and obedient can enter heaven. "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God" Matt 5:8. In the book, Jesus mentioned that He would be coming sooner than we expected.
Many have doubts about the book; Heaven is So Real. Read about what others have to say about Heaven is So Real.
Thursday, August 7, 2008
Wednesday, August 6, 2008
There was nothing in this book that would lead people to sin which is what satans motive is.
Kirk Says:
I think we need to be very careful about saying that someone is being guided by the devil. Remember the Pharisees said the same thing about Jesus because he was saying and doing things that did not line up with their theology, and they were the Bible experts of their day. Why would satan write a book that motivates people to worship God and live holy and pure lives.
There was nothing in this book that would lead people to sin which is what satans motive is. Just because we don’t feel comfortable about everything that she said or did does not mean that she is of the devil. We do need to watch out for false prophets but that doesn’t mean that none of them are true prophets. Ezekiel had to lie on his side naked and eat human dung.
If Choo Nam had to do that would we declare that she is a false prophet because God would not have someone do something as strange as that (as if we know everying that God would or would not do). I did read the entire book and was very stirred inside to follow God with all my heart. A book from a false prophet would not have had that effect on me. If satan wrote this book to try to deceive me then it backfired on him. What exactly would he be trying to deceive me of, to live a pure life in devotion to God.
Yes, we are saved by grace, but grace gives us the power to live in victory over sin. If we do not, by faith, overcome sin (working out our salvation) then our faith is dead. Wake up people, the false prophets are the ones who use the letter of the word to fight against the Spirit of God.
Gambi Says:
Thanks Kirk! I totally agree with what you said. i read the book and was really inspired, but alot of people keep coming against it. I pray that God will give us all dicernment to know what is of Him and what is not.
Lisa Says:
Kirk, I understand your point completly but I agree with Barry McGarrh. The most important thing is we all believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Maybe we all who love each other and the Lord should move along to some great truth in the Bible. Some of us believe Choo’s book and some of us don’t, but praise God we all believe the Bible! We all have a heart for God. I am happy to meet all of you. Any good ideas of a new subject in the Bible or a book in the Bible we can all read and discuss? A sister in Christ, Lisa
I think we need to be very careful about saying that someone is being guided by the devil. Remember the Pharisees said the same thing about Jesus because he was saying and doing things that did not line up with their theology, and they were the Bible experts of their day. Why would satan write a book that motivates people to worship God and live holy and pure lives.
There was nothing in this book that would lead people to sin which is what satans motive is. Just because we don’t feel comfortable about everything that she said or did does not mean that she is of the devil. We do need to watch out for false prophets but that doesn’t mean that none of them are true prophets. Ezekiel had to lie on his side naked and eat human dung.
If Choo Nam had to do that would we declare that she is a false prophet because God would not have someone do something as strange as that (as if we know everying that God would or would not do). I did read the entire book and was very stirred inside to follow God with all my heart. A book from a false prophet would not have had that effect on me. If satan wrote this book to try to deceive me then it backfired on him. What exactly would he be trying to deceive me of, to live a pure life in devotion to God.
Yes, we are saved by grace, but grace gives us the power to live in victory over sin. If we do not, by faith, overcome sin (working out our salvation) then our faith is dead. Wake up people, the false prophets are the ones who use the letter of the word to fight against the Spirit of God.
Gambi Says:
Thanks Kirk! I totally agree with what you said. i read the book and was really inspired, but alot of people keep coming against it. I pray that God will give us all dicernment to know what is of Him and what is not.
Lisa Says:
Kirk, I understand your point completly but I agree with Barry McGarrh. The most important thing is we all believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Maybe we all who love each other and the Lord should move along to some great truth in the Bible. Some of us believe Choo’s book and some of us don’t, but praise God we all believe the Bible! We all have a heart for God. I am happy to meet all of you. Any good ideas of a new subject in the Bible or a book in the Bible we can all read and discuss? A sister in Christ, Lisa
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Tuesday, August 5, 2008
We need the Bible NOT her book!
Nicole Says:
Dear Lisa, so happy that I’ve been a little help to you!
you know when I read this book I felt very uncomfortable
and even felt more and more distant from the Lord!
yeah, she quoted quite a lot of the Bible but…just watch out!
we need the Bible NOT her book!
If God wants us to see the heaven thar clearly
HE would have revealed that to John in Revelation!
Thank God for everything! HE is our Keeper!
Lisa Says:
Nicole, I felt the same way. I couldn’t find the Jesus in the bible I know and love. I read and study the bible almost every day. What a wonderful God we have that knows the real longings in our life, the Spirit of Jesus in us! Our comforter, the great I AM, The Lamb of God, how we love Him and with His grace we are saved.
” If you confess with your mouth the lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” Romans 10:19
The Lord will teach us how to obey Him, we are always fighting against our flesh. He is our Helper. We try to have a pure heart, the blood of Jesus covers us. I love the Lord and brothers and sisters in the Lord. I know you do,too! I am letting it go like you said. I discerned early that the book was wrong but kept reading, I know better now. The Holy Spirit gives us this discernment. The Bible is the book to read! I am going to read Galtians tonight, I haven’t read that in a while. I am happy to learn again from the Living Word of God.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God, Romans 8:16 A sister in Christ, Lisa
Nicole Says:
Yeah, Lisa, I agree!
Reading her book just made me more and more confused!
Jesus—the Lord I seek and love will not deal with people
that way!!! This book is just her dream and NOTHING more!
The Holy Bible is indeed what we need!!!
we don’t deserve it! but it is God’s grace!
so..grace is grace! even we don’t deserve it God still gave it us!
We don’t deserve Jesus to die on the Cross for us;
we don’t deserve Jesus to shed HIS last drop of blood for us
but HIS did! That is God’s grace! (undeserved favor!)
God does not need us but HE chose us to be in a realtionship
with HIM! Just think about that for a minute, the Creator of heaven
and earth, the Lord of lords the King of kings the KING of glory is
—our FATHER!
Let’s give God a big praise!
Love, Nicole
Lisa Says:
Nicole,
What a wonderful Father we have! Lisa
Dear Lisa, so happy that I’ve been a little help to you!
you know when I read this book I felt very uncomfortable
and even felt more and more distant from the Lord!
yeah, she quoted quite a lot of the Bible but…just watch out!
we need the Bible NOT her book!
If God wants us to see the heaven thar clearly
HE would have revealed that to John in Revelation!
Thank God for everything! HE is our Keeper!
Lisa Says:
Nicole, I felt the same way. I couldn’t find the Jesus in the bible I know and love. I read and study the bible almost every day. What a wonderful God we have that knows the real longings in our life, the Spirit of Jesus in us! Our comforter, the great I AM, The Lamb of God, how we love Him and with His grace we are saved.
” If you confess with your mouth the lord Jesus, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved” Romans 10:19
The Lord will teach us how to obey Him, we are always fighting against our flesh. He is our Helper. We try to have a pure heart, the blood of Jesus covers us. I love the Lord and brothers and sisters in the Lord. I know you do,too! I am letting it go like you said. I discerned early that the book was wrong but kept reading, I know better now. The Holy Spirit gives us this discernment. The Bible is the book to read! I am going to read Galtians tonight, I haven’t read that in a while. I am happy to learn again from the Living Word of God.
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God, Romans 8:16 A sister in Christ, Lisa
Nicole Says:
Yeah, Lisa, I agree!
Reading her book just made me more and more confused!
Jesus—the Lord I seek and love will not deal with people
that way!!! This book is just her dream and NOTHING more!
The Holy Bible is indeed what we need!!!
we don’t deserve it! but it is God’s grace!
so..grace is grace! even we don’t deserve it God still gave it us!
We don’t deserve Jesus to die on the Cross for us;
we don’t deserve Jesus to shed HIS last drop of blood for us
but HIS did! That is God’s grace! (undeserved favor!)
God does not need us but HE chose us to be in a realtionship
with HIM! Just think about that for a minute, the Creator of heaven
and earth, the Lord of lords the King of kings the KING of glory is
—our FATHER!
Let’s give God a big praise!
Love, Nicole
Lisa Says:
Nicole,
What a wonderful Father we have! Lisa
Monday, August 4, 2008
The rapture is very close
bluegilln Says:
Just a first note: She did NOT even mention the beasts nor the twenty four elders ………Seated at the right hand of the glory of God the Father is Christ Jesus, God’s one and only son. Surrounding God’s throne are twenty-four other thrones, and seated upon them, are twenty-four elders. Before the throne of God seven lamps blaze representing God the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11:2), and also before the throne of God, there is what looks like a sea of glass as clear as crystal. Around the throne of God, four living creatures (angels) and the twenty four elders never stop praising God. Each has a harp and they hold bowls full of incense which are the prayers of the saints. Also around the throne, angels numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand praise and worship God the Father and Christ Jesus His one and only son. Also before the throne of God, the redeemed of earth serve God day and night in His temple. (Revelation 4:2-15)
Never the less……. It made me take stock…. am I ready? A hoax or no Heaven and hell are very real and the rapture is very close.
Just a first note: She did NOT even mention the beasts nor the twenty four elders ………Seated at the right hand of the glory of God the Father is Christ Jesus, God’s one and only son. Surrounding God’s throne are twenty-four other thrones, and seated upon them, are twenty-four elders. Before the throne of God seven lamps blaze representing God the Holy Spirit (Isaiah 11:2), and also before the throne of God, there is what looks like a sea of glass as clear as crystal. Around the throne of God, four living creatures (angels) and the twenty four elders never stop praising God. Each has a harp and they hold bowls full of incense which are the prayers of the saints. Also around the throne, angels numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand praise and worship God the Father and Christ Jesus His one and only son. Also before the throne of God, the redeemed of earth serve God day and night in His temple. (Revelation 4:2-15)
Never the less……. It made me take stock…. am I ready? A hoax or no Heaven and hell are very real and the rapture is very close.
Sunday, August 3, 2008
I read and I believed
baliling Says:
I actually read the book and believed everything choo nam has experienced with the Lord Jesus. The bible tells us: “God blesses those whose hearts are pure for they see God” - matthew 5:8
Brothers and sisters in Christ, Jesus said: Love one another as i loved you.
Be grateful with choo nam warning message. Truly it is our Lord Jesus speaking on her.
You’d better watch out
You’d better be ready
You’d better be good
I'm tellin you now
Jesus Christ is coming to earth
God bless you all.
I actually read the book and believed everything choo nam has experienced with the Lord Jesus. The bible tells us: “God blesses those whose hearts are pure for they see God” - matthew 5:8
Brothers and sisters in Christ, Jesus said: Love one another as i loved you.
Be grateful with choo nam warning message. Truly it is our Lord Jesus speaking on her.
You’d better watch out
You’d better be ready
You’d better be good
I'm tellin you now
Jesus Christ is coming to earth
God bless you all.
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
I can’t say she’s evil but just misguided
Lisa Says:
I saw her video, she has to sway back and forth or her stomach clenches. She says it’s from the Holy Spirit. She also says this is Jesus’ book for the end times. He tells her this many times in the book. I am wondering if the people who believe what she says have REALLY read the Whole book.
All the screaming and fear and pain and body work! It does not sound like Jesus to me. What is the vision voice? Scary. Please comment, thanks. Lisa
Nicole Says:
Lisa, I think I can tell you Jesus does not deal with people that way!!!
I haven’t read the whole book because it’s NOT AT ALL worth reading!
I can’t say she’s evil but just misguided.
Leave it alone!When you read religious books ask Father God for discernment and bring your intelligence with you and be critical of what you read.
Devotional books such as this one are full of nonsense. -love.Nicole
Lisa Says:
Thanks Nicole, I think she is misguided also. I do need to let it alone, it has bothered me so much. I was reading Luke ch. 12 last night, what a wonderful Jesus we have. Luke 12:15 Jesus says “take head and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.” Our life is so much more with God our Father. Thanks again, you helped me, Lisa
I saw her video, she has to sway back and forth or her stomach clenches. She says it’s from the Holy Spirit. She also says this is Jesus’ book for the end times. He tells her this many times in the book. I am wondering if the people who believe what she says have REALLY read the Whole book.
All the screaming and fear and pain and body work! It does not sound like Jesus to me. What is the vision voice? Scary. Please comment, thanks. Lisa
Nicole Says:
Lisa, I think I can tell you Jesus does not deal with people that way!!!
I haven’t read the whole book because it’s NOT AT ALL worth reading!
I can’t say she’s evil but just misguided.
Leave it alone!When you read religious books ask Father God for discernment and bring your intelligence with you and be critical of what you read.
Devotional books such as this one are full of nonsense. -love.Nicole
Lisa Says:
Thanks Nicole, I think she is misguided also. I do need to let it alone, it has bothered me so much. I was reading Luke ch. 12 last night, what a wonderful Jesus we have. Luke 12:15 Jesus says “take head and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses.” Our life is so much more with God our Father. Thanks again, you helped me, Lisa
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Friday, August 1, 2008
Choo Thomas is either deceived or has deliberately researched the longings of true believers and played on them in order to make lots of sales
Bertie Says:
I would suggest that Choo Thomas is either deceived or has deliberately researched the longings of true believers and played on them in order to make lots of sales. Apart from many other things, to suggest that Jesus instructs people to buy the book sends alarm bells. Gullible Christians who genuinely want to obey Jesus are left with no option but to make Choo Thomas richer by buying the book. She makes predictions about when Jesus will come, as have so many other false prophets over the years. The non fulfilment of these prophecies will be a good indicator of he credentials.
Having said that, God is sovereign, and there may be some people who are initially motivated by this book to be more devoted to Christ. But they would then need to do some unlearning to move on in that devotion.
Nicole Says:
I agree with you,Bertie!
It’s of course for God to judge!
Good things, bad things, God uses them!
EVERYTHING works out for good for those who love God!
Alleluia!
I would suggest that Choo Thomas is either deceived or has deliberately researched the longings of true believers and played on them in order to make lots of sales. Apart from many other things, to suggest that Jesus instructs people to buy the book sends alarm bells. Gullible Christians who genuinely want to obey Jesus are left with no option but to make Choo Thomas richer by buying the book. She makes predictions about when Jesus will come, as have so many other false prophets over the years. The non fulfilment of these prophecies will be a good indicator of he credentials.
Having said that, God is sovereign, and there may be some people who are initially motivated by this book to be more devoted to Christ. But they would then need to do some unlearning to move on in that devotion.
Nicole Says:
I agree with you,Bertie!
It’s of course for God to judge!
Good things, bad things, God uses them!
EVERYTHING works out for good for those who love God!
Alleluia!
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Thursday, July 31, 2008
Choo does not claim that the book is on par with the Scripture.
David Says:
I’ve read the book and I must say that the book inspired me to live a godly life. As much as we must “test the spirit”, we also need to examine our hearts before God.
Choo does not claim that the book is on par with the Scripture. The book is not infallible, and must not be treated as Scripture. But through her experience, we can learn a lot from it. It should cause us to desire to be close with God, to have that intimate relationship with God.
I’ve read the book and I must say that the book inspired me to live a godly life. As much as we must “test the spirit”, we also need to examine our hearts before God.
Choo does not claim that the book is on par with the Scripture. The book is not infallible, and must not be treated as Scripture. But through her experience, we can learn a lot from it. It should cause us to desire to be close with God, to have that intimate relationship with God.
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008
He would raise up a church THROUGH her
Jeremy Says:
Barry McGarrh, God told Choo that he would raise up a church THROUGH her, therefore there would not be any ‘pastor’. Jesus is the true shepherd of his church, and we are his sheep.
I am not saying that she is 100% correct, i do not know, but the Holy Spirit in us is a witness to all things. We cannot rely on our flesh, because Jesus says “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jer 17:9)
We MUST trust the Holy Spirit, as Jesus also talks about the antichrist that is to come; “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matt 24:24)
It’s true that we enter heaven by grace, not works. But did God Almighty create a people that give their lives to him, and still live in the ways of the world? — In Matt 6:24, it says: “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” A child of God cannot have the lusts and sin of this world, while being in fellowship with God.
Also, when people dance and sing before the Lord, it is NOT satanic rituals. I know there are people who just make it up, but true joy will come when we come humbly before Him.
Jesus is not taking Choo away from her husband, he is just omnipresent, and with her wherever she goes, and that is what is meant by she spends all of her time with Him. If we follow Him, he promised that to us: “Lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matt 28:20b)
AND
John 14:16 - “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever”
John 14:26 - “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
- What do you make of Choo saying that she was filled with Joy? (Satan cannot give good, he is the father of evil)
- What evidence do you have that Jesus did not manifest Himself to her and show her revelations of things to come? It says in Eph 1:17, “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him”
God is desiring to do many mighty thinghs in us, and most things he would have done in us cannot be done due to the hardness of our hearts toward Him. That is why he chooses some people more than others, because they are willing for Him to work in them, and use them for His glory.
As a few people have stated already, 1 John 4:1 states: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
We must be ready for His return!!
Barry McGarrh, God told Choo that he would raise up a church THROUGH her, therefore there would not be any ‘pastor’. Jesus is the true shepherd of his church, and we are his sheep.
I am not saying that she is 100% correct, i do not know, but the Holy Spirit in us is a witness to all things. We cannot rely on our flesh, because Jesus says “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” (Jer 17:9)
We MUST trust the Holy Spirit, as Jesus also talks about the antichrist that is to come; “For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.” (Matt 24:24)
It’s true that we enter heaven by grace, not works. But did God Almighty create a people that give their lives to him, and still live in the ways of the world? — In Matt 6:24, it says: “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.” A child of God cannot have the lusts and sin of this world, while being in fellowship with God.
Also, when people dance and sing before the Lord, it is NOT satanic rituals. I know there are people who just make it up, but true joy will come when we come humbly before Him.
Jesus is not taking Choo away from her husband, he is just omnipresent, and with her wherever she goes, and that is what is meant by she spends all of her time with Him. If we follow Him, he promised that to us: “Lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.” (Matt 28:20b)
AND
John 14:16 - “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you forever”
John 14:26 - “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
- What do you make of Choo saying that she was filled with Joy? (Satan cannot give good, he is the father of evil)
- What evidence do you have that Jesus did not manifest Himself to her and show her revelations of things to come? It says in Eph 1:17, “That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him”
God is desiring to do many mighty thinghs in us, and most things he would have done in us cannot be done due to the hardness of our hearts toward Him. That is why he chooses some people more than others, because they are willing for Him to work in them, and use them for His glory.
As a few people have stated already, 1 John 4:1 states: “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
We must be ready for His return!!
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008
NO GREATER REVELATION THAN THE BIBLE
Nicole Says:
I was really excited about the book in the very start, overwhelmed by her experience with Jesus! But thank God!!! This book made me feel uncomfortable and when I have read 60 pages or so I decided to stop!!!
Jesus said she was pure in heart and her faith and obedience and perseverance pleased HIM “a lot” ! And that made me feel bad about myself. well I don’t care! I don’t wanna read it any more!
She said there is a powder room in the house which Jesus’ prepared for her in heaven! You know what to me it sounds really absurd! Do we need to do the make-up in heaven!!!???
And she said she saw some men and women there,
to which Jesus said in the Bible when we go to heaven we all become angels!
And I just can’t believe that Jesus would have visited her THAT FREQUENTLY!!!!
Excuse me but I can’t accept!
Although some messages she conveyed in the book were positive
but I remember somebody once told me and I believer what he said
—-there will be NO GREATER REVELATION THAN THE BIBLE BEFORE Jesus omes back again!
I was really excited about the book in the very start, overwhelmed by her experience with Jesus! But thank God!!! This book made me feel uncomfortable and when I have read 60 pages or so I decided to stop!!!
Jesus said she was pure in heart and her faith and obedience and perseverance pleased HIM “a lot” ! And that made me feel bad about myself. well I don’t care! I don’t wanna read it any more!
She said there is a powder room in the house which Jesus’ prepared for her in heaven! You know what to me it sounds really absurd! Do we need to do the make-up in heaven!!!???
And she said she saw some men and women there,
to which Jesus said in the Bible when we go to heaven we all become angels!
And I just can’t believe that Jesus would have visited her THAT FREQUENTLY!!!!
Excuse me but I can’t accept!
Although some messages she conveyed in the book were positive
but I remember somebody once told me and I believer what he said
—-there will be NO GREATER REVELATION THAN THE BIBLE BEFORE Jesus omes back again!
Monday, July 28, 2008
Entrance to heaven is never by works
Anon Says:
Entrance to heaven is never by works but by the grace of God and the grace of God ONLY
Lisa Says:
Thank you Barry McGarrh and also Anon. I thought I was the only one who felt something was wrong with this book. Pray for my Bible study that is reading this. I was one out of sixteen that didn’t agree with it. Also, Anon, I saw that grace was missing. God is so good to us.
Entrance to heaven is never by works but by the grace of God and the grace of God ONLY
Lisa Says:
Thank you Barry McGarrh and also Anon. I thought I was the only one who felt something was wrong with this book. Pray for my Bible study that is reading this. I was one out of sixteen that didn’t agree with it. Also, Anon, I saw that grace was missing. God is so good to us.
Sunday, July 27, 2008
The Jesus Choo Thomas is referring to in this book is an imposter -Satan himself!
Barry McGarrh Says:
My wife was reading this book. I felt to look it over after she mentioned a few things in it. 1 John 4:1 tells us, “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” I told my wife after I reviewed the book that if we are to take Choo Thomas’s word that this book is really written by Jesus, thru her, then we can then glue it to the back of our Holy Bible and make another book of our Holy Scriptures. Satan will appear as an angel of light and impersonate the real Christ Jesus to receive glory due to the real Christ Jesus.
The Jesus Choo Thomas is referring to in this book is an imposter -Satan himself! Why did Jesus not have his Apostle John to write about heaven like this in the book of Revelation? Christians are now supposed to believe that God has raised Choo Thomas up as he did his own Apostle’s? I guess Jesus did not accomplish everything he needed to do with them! This is dangerous and leaves a Christian open to be swayed by any false prophesy and teaching just because they say it is from God!
Choo believes this encounter is from Jesus because the spirit that spoke to her said he was Jesus -I am not President Bush or anyone else because I say I am! Satan or any demon is not Christ Jesus just because they say they are. Satan would be glad to take the Glory of this even under the name of the real Jesus! How can Choo give such a detailed description of heaven and angels? Because Satan and his demons where there and they saw first hand, heaven and the angels. Choo is taken into a hypnotic trance-like state and this enables demonic influence to communicate to her mind through images of heaven and angels as they know them to really be -since they have been there before they were kicked out! Thats how! Satan is an angel of light because he knows how to imitate the real light! Satan is a master deceiver. I know it all sounds good and people today are itching for a sign and revelation from God. Because of this itching some will fall for the most incredible deceptions. Choo herself has fallen for this great deception. I know it sounds right because she points to Jesus. Does Satan care if people point to Jesus if it is actually him behind the mask. No! He doesn’t care. If anyone comes to Christ from her book -then they came to the wrong Christ. The Christ people should come to is the Christ of the Holy Bible -Not Choo Thomas’s revelation from a false spirit god! This is why we are warned to “try the spirits” -how do we “try the spirits”? We line up what the spirit is saying against God’s Word.
Does God’s Word give an indication that even on the day of Pentecost that people were jerking and miracle dancing in some sort of ritual? No it does not! God will not imitate Satanic rituals! But Satan will try to imitate God with adding his demonic rituals in with it. This gives it a good sugar coating to intice poeple to believe it is of God. We can no more listen to the revelation of Choo Thomas over Joseph Smith of the Mormans. The teaching of Joseph Smith sounds good on the surface -So does the revelation of Choo Thomas! Her talent, or Satan’s talent, for adding God’s Holy Word to her revelation is very enticing for many Christian believers awaiting a new revelation from God.
Choo says that since 1996 that every waking hour is spent with Jesus. She says that her husband has been so understanding or their marriage would not have made it -is this God’s intention according to His Word? To take a married woman and seperate her unto Himself! Show a scripture for that! And while you would be looking for a scripture for that look up one that would allow her to overtake the platform of her church despite what the pastor would have to say about it! Also, why did Jesus not tell her His real birthday date? Rather than telling her on Christmas eve that it was his birthday! Does not Jesus realize that Christmas eve is not his real birthday? Why does Jesus not emphasize the resurrection day? The biggest day of the Bible! Are aborted babies really stored naked, side by side, in a warehouse building awaiting their saved mothers to come to heaven and raise them? This is about as hoky as it gets!
I know many will say, “who is he to come against a beautiful sister in Christ”. First I am not coming against a beautiful sister in Christ -only against the false doctrine of her book! Trying (testing) the spirits to see whether they are of God (1 John 4:1) shows a clear picture that her “hypnotic trance vision journey” is far from truth. This is not anything less than a Anti-Christ Satanic spirit passing himself off as Jesus to Choo Thomas and anyone else willing to be lead astray from the truth of God’s Word by this so called new revelation from an imposter Jesus. I may only be a voice crying out in the wilderness of cyber world -but so be it! Amen and Amen!
My wife was reading this book. I felt to look it over after she mentioned a few things in it. 1 John 4:1 tells us, “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.” I told my wife after I reviewed the book that if we are to take Choo Thomas’s word that this book is really written by Jesus, thru her, then we can then glue it to the back of our Holy Bible and make another book of our Holy Scriptures. Satan will appear as an angel of light and impersonate the real Christ Jesus to receive glory due to the real Christ Jesus.
The Jesus Choo Thomas is referring to in this book is an imposter -Satan himself! Why did Jesus not have his Apostle John to write about heaven like this in the book of Revelation? Christians are now supposed to believe that God has raised Choo Thomas up as he did his own Apostle’s? I guess Jesus did not accomplish everything he needed to do with them! This is dangerous and leaves a Christian open to be swayed by any false prophesy and teaching just because they say it is from God!
Choo believes this encounter is from Jesus because the spirit that spoke to her said he was Jesus -I am not President Bush or anyone else because I say I am! Satan or any demon is not Christ Jesus just because they say they are. Satan would be glad to take the Glory of this even under the name of the real Jesus! How can Choo give such a detailed description of heaven and angels? Because Satan and his demons where there and they saw first hand, heaven and the angels. Choo is taken into a hypnotic trance-like state and this enables demonic influence to communicate to her mind through images of heaven and angels as they know them to really be -since they have been there before they were kicked out! Thats how! Satan is an angel of light because he knows how to imitate the real light! Satan is a master deceiver. I know it all sounds good and people today are itching for a sign and revelation from God. Because of this itching some will fall for the most incredible deceptions. Choo herself has fallen for this great deception. I know it sounds right because she points to Jesus. Does Satan care if people point to Jesus if it is actually him behind the mask. No! He doesn’t care. If anyone comes to Christ from her book -then they came to the wrong Christ. The Christ people should come to is the Christ of the Holy Bible -Not Choo Thomas’s revelation from a false spirit god! This is why we are warned to “try the spirits” -how do we “try the spirits”? We line up what the spirit is saying against God’s Word.
Does God’s Word give an indication that even on the day of Pentecost that people were jerking and miracle dancing in some sort of ritual? No it does not! God will not imitate Satanic rituals! But Satan will try to imitate God with adding his demonic rituals in with it. This gives it a good sugar coating to intice poeple to believe it is of God. We can no more listen to the revelation of Choo Thomas over Joseph Smith of the Mormans. The teaching of Joseph Smith sounds good on the surface -So does the revelation of Choo Thomas! Her talent, or Satan’s talent, for adding God’s Holy Word to her revelation is very enticing for many Christian believers awaiting a new revelation from God.
Choo says that since 1996 that every waking hour is spent with Jesus. She says that her husband has been so understanding or their marriage would not have made it -is this God’s intention according to His Word? To take a married woman and seperate her unto Himself! Show a scripture for that! And while you would be looking for a scripture for that look up one that would allow her to overtake the platform of her church despite what the pastor would have to say about it! Also, why did Jesus not tell her His real birthday date? Rather than telling her on Christmas eve that it was his birthday! Does not Jesus realize that Christmas eve is not his real birthday? Why does Jesus not emphasize the resurrection day? The biggest day of the Bible! Are aborted babies really stored naked, side by side, in a warehouse building awaiting their saved mothers to come to heaven and raise them? This is about as hoky as it gets!
I know many will say, “who is he to come against a beautiful sister in Christ”. First I am not coming against a beautiful sister in Christ -only against the false doctrine of her book! Trying (testing) the spirits to see whether they are of God (1 John 4:1) shows a clear picture that her “hypnotic trance vision journey” is far from truth. This is not anything less than a Anti-Christ Satanic spirit passing himself off as Jesus to Choo Thomas and anyone else willing to be lead astray from the truth of God’s Word by this so called new revelation from an imposter Jesus. I may only be a voice crying out in the wilderness of cyber world -but so be it! Amen and Amen!
Saturday, July 26, 2008
One who is concerned Says:
I finished reading this book last night. In fact, there were numerous times I wanted to put it down and/or bin it. Wake up guys! This is exactly how the devil works - you know, the poison mixed in with the truth to give it some credibility. There were so many things that just were not right.
Pray to Jesus that He will give you discernment. Remember that in the last days deception is one of the signs (Matthew 24:24).
unknown Says:
The Lord is preparing something for all the people believe me, He is, He will. lets continue to pray and continue to become holy, God is the same yesterday today and forever… what Choo experienced, we already experience and theres a lot more He is teaching something to us…….Philippines is a blessed country that’s all i can say.
Gambi Says:
Hey Guys,
I think that both Christians and non-Christians should read this book. I’ve just finished reading it and was really challenged to change my ways of being a luke-warm Christian. I was very challenged to spend more time with God on a deeper level. I believe that God is going to bring many people to him through this book, and i can’t wait to give this book to some of my family and friends.
God Bless Guys…
I finished reading this book last night. In fact, there were numerous times I wanted to put it down and/or bin it. Wake up guys! This is exactly how the devil works - you know, the poison mixed in with the truth to give it some credibility. There were so many things that just were not right.
Pray to Jesus that He will give you discernment. Remember that in the last days deception is one of the signs (Matthew 24:24).
unknown Says:
The Lord is preparing something for all the people believe me, He is, He will. lets continue to pray and continue to become holy, God is the same yesterday today and forever… what Choo experienced, we already experience and theres a lot more He is teaching something to us…….Philippines is a blessed country that’s all i can say.
Gambi Says:
Hey Guys,
I think that both Christians and non-Christians should read this book. I’ve just finished reading it and was really challenged to change my ways of being a luke-warm Christian. I was very challenged to spend more time with God on a deeper level. I believe that God is going to bring many people to him through this book, and i can’t wait to give this book to some of my family and friends.
God Bless Guys…
Friday, July 25, 2008
Blessed are the PURE in heart for THEY shall see God
Minister John Says:
There are some very good points in this book that I totally believe in. She emphasizes over and over that only the pure in heart will enter. This is PLAINLY the teaching of the bible,for blessed are the PURE in heart for THEY shall see God. Without holiness NO ONE will see the Lord! Some other things are questionable,but better to be safe than sorry,God is indeed in this modern ungodly church age telling His people it’s time to REPENT (which means to turn from our sin,and lukewarmness,and especially today’s church worldliness!). Wake up people of God,it’s time to get on fire and stay on fire,or else we will definitely be thrown in the fire in the end! God bless,and wake up church!
There are some very good points in this book that I totally believe in. She emphasizes over and over that only the pure in heart will enter. This is PLAINLY the teaching of the bible,for blessed are the PURE in heart for THEY shall see God. Without holiness NO ONE will see the Lord! Some other things are questionable,but better to be safe than sorry,God is indeed in this modern ungodly church age telling His people it’s time to REPENT (which means to turn from our sin,and lukewarmness,and especially today’s church worldliness!). Wake up people of God,it’s time to get on fire and stay on fire,or else we will definitely be thrown in the fire in the end! God bless,and wake up church!
Thursday, July 24, 2008
Disobedient Christian
abc Says:
I read Heaven is real and find no fault in it. I like to add on disobedient Christian. there are Christian who still continue to live in a sinful way, e.g. not tithing, still go on to do thing which is not holy be it in thought, deed or words. There are also Christian who put up such a good front, but their heart only God Knows. Whoever is the disobedient Christian that Choo Nam Thomas saw in Heaven, not being judge yet because it is not judgement time yet.
heavenly Says:
I read ‘Heaven is so real’ on last year.
It gave inculcation to me really, and changed mind.
Was developed more in faith ago him.
After read this book, repented, and I wanted to pass near with ‘Jesus christ’.
Micheal Says:
I am almost finishing the book… I realised I had been a ‘disobedient Christian’. I am going to change in my ways.. I hope to see you guys in heaven one day. Praise the Lord Jesus for such grace….
I want to bring you guys to realised that this book is for some people like me!!
This book is to strengthen Christian about the reality of Heaven and Jesus second coming…
To wake us up, so as not to missed out His coming!!!
To help us walk properly again with Him and in His ways!!!
I want to thank Sister Choo for going through so much trouble for me and PRAISE THE LORD!!! a millions for His undying grace and patience for me.
I hope we could appreciate whatever effort that God is doing…. to get us back close to Him!
I love you … bros and sis.. esp Fongling and Palary who care for Christians not to be misled… But I wished to tell u this book has done me a lot of GOOD!!!
May every knee bow and every tongue confessed that Jesus is Lord… before He comes….
Hallelujahhhhhhhhhhh
I read Heaven is real and find no fault in it. I like to add on disobedient Christian. there are Christian who still continue to live in a sinful way, e.g. not tithing, still go on to do thing which is not holy be it in thought, deed or words. There are also Christian who put up such a good front, but their heart only God Knows. Whoever is the disobedient Christian that Choo Nam Thomas saw in Heaven, not being judge yet because it is not judgement time yet.
heavenly Says:
I read ‘Heaven is so real’ on last year.
It gave inculcation to me really, and changed mind.
Was developed more in faith ago him.
After read this book, repented, and I wanted to pass near with ‘Jesus christ’.
Micheal Says:
I am almost finishing the book… I realised I had been a ‘disobedient Christian’. I am going to change in my ways.. I hope to see you guys in heaven one day. Praise the Lord Jesus for such grace….
I want to bring you guys to realised that this book is for some people like me!!
This book is to strengthen Christian about the reality of Heaven and Jesus second coming…
To wake us up, so as not to missed out His coming!!!
To help us walk properly again with Him and in His ways!!!
I want to thank Sister Choo for going through so much trouble for me and PRAISE THE LORD!!! a millions for His undying grace and patience for me.
I hope we could appreciate whatever effort that God is doing…. to get us back close to Him!
I love you … bros and sis.. esp Fongling and Palary who care for Christians not to be misled… But I wished to tell u this book has done me a lot of GOOD!!!
May every knee bow and every tongue confessed that Jesus is Lord… before He comes….
Hallelujahhhhhhhhhhh
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
Many Truths in the Book
TIM Says:
Mark 13;5 “See to it that no one misleads you. Many will come in my name saying, `I am the Christ!’ and will mislead many. Matthew 24:23, Then if anyone says to you , `Behold, here is the Christ’ or There he is, Do not believe him. ……….
Read on, this is a warning! However, There are many truths in the book and Choo's heart certainly seems right before God. But we must always remember to allow The Holy Spirit to change us though. We can’t make ourselves right with God through works “lest any man should boast”. I just fear some may read this book and Try too hard and give up. Only God can change us through a willing heart. So even though I have trouble with the fact that this is Jesus, because of what the word of God says above, I’m sure he”ll use it for his purpose.
Mark 13;5 “See to it that no one misleads you. Many will come in my name saying, `I am the Christ!’ and will mislead many. Matthew 24:23, Then if anyone says to you , `Behold, here is the Christ’ or There he is, Do not believe him. ……….
Read on, this is a warning! However, There are many truths in the book and Choo's heart certainly seems right before God. But we must always remember to allow The Holy Spirit to change us though. We can’t make ourselves right with God through works “lest any man should boast”. I just fear some may read this book and Try too hard and give up. Only God can change us through a willing heart. So even though I have trouble with the fact that this is Jesus, because of what the word of God says above, I’m sure he”ll use it for his purpose.
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Tuesday, July 22, 2008
Bible is a Yardstick
Palary Says:
…hmmm….I could easily cough up a story and make millions out of it. When people cannot differentiate whether if it is true or false…
People, the Bible is the yardstick to measure against all falsehood, error and lies. Whether it is of the HS or from the devil, God written word is the foundation to judge.
If “feel good” is the basis of determine what is Good. No matter if it is true or false, then we are a sorry people. There are thousands of books out there that makes u feel good about your image yet it doesn’t come close to the Bible in Truth.
…hmmm….I could easily cough up a story and make millions out of it. When people cannot differentiate whether if it is true or false…
People, the Bible is the yardstick to measure against all falsehood, error and lies. Whether it is of the HS or from the devil, God written word is the foundation to judge.
If “feel good” is the basis of determine what is Good. No matter if it is true or false, then we are a sorry people. There are thousands of books out there that makes u feel good about your image yet it doesn’t come close to the Bible in Truth.
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Sunday, July 20, 2008
Good Essay on False Prophets
Bob Says:
April 27th, 2005 at 2:38 am
I found this really good essay on false prophets.
http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_prophecy_testing.html
Basically, a biblical view of a prophet is
1. 100% right, not exceptions
2. They will be fruit bearers (love, peace, joy, patients, kindness and self control)
3. They will convict of sin, and call to repent.
4. They will point you towards Salvation in the lord
5. They will welcome being tested
April 27th, 2005 at 2:38 am
I found this really good essay on false prophets.
http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_prophecy_testing.html
Basically, a biblical view of a prophet is
1. 100% right, not exceptions
2. They will be fruit bearers (love, peace, joy, patients, kindness and self control)
3. They will convict of sin, and call to repent.
4. They will point you towards Salvation in the lord
5. They will welcome being tested
Saturday, July 19, 2008
Walk Closer to Jesus
Bob Says:
Just to let you know that I have had a been a Christian for may years. And this book has really challenged me to have a moment by moment relationship with the lord. I have had many email interactions with Choo Nam and I find her to be a humble servant of God. I admit that I have struggled with the people wandering just outside of heaven.
Please read 1 Corinthians 3:15 very carefully.
Also, Matthew 7:15
Mat 7:15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Mat 7:16 “You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn {bushes} nor figs from thistles, are they?
Mat 7:17 “So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
Mat 7:19 “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Mat 7:20 “So then, you will know them by their fruits.
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.}
Mat 7:22 “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
Mat 7:23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
So I say, we will know if Choo Nam is real or not by her Fruits.
My interaction with her has shown me that she is deeply in love with Jesus and has a passion for the lost. She believes in the the gospel and that what she is preaching.
As I have studied more, I find Jesus saying things like
The way is narrow.
Those that do the work of God will be saved
The story of the seed on a path clearly tells of some that will accept the word of god, and fall away due to the love of the world.
Choo Nam’s message from Jesus says “Hey, wake up! You can’t love the world and me at the same time. Serve Jesus before it is to late”
1Th 5:20 do not despise prophetic utterances.
1Th 5:21 But examine everything {carefully;} hold fast to that which is good;
As far as Choo Nam telling about how Christ said he would bless her, well, lets remember Solomon, or David, or may other characters in the Bible who had great wealth and blessing. It was not their choice, but Gods.
All I can say is that this book has made me walk closer to Jesus and have a real hear for the lost. I now look at people as a soul. There was nothing that she is saying that is not biblical in my opinion. To accept Christ and continue in sin shows that the conversion may be in question I think. We will be known by our fruits.
God Bless you all.
Just to let you know that I have had a been a Christian for may years. And this book has really challenged me to have a moment by moment relationship with the lord. I have had many email interactions with Choo Nam and I find her to be a humble servant of God. I admit that I have struggled with the people wandering just outside of heaven.
Please read 1 Corinthians 3:15 very carefully.
Also, Matthew 7:15
Mat 7:15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Mat 7:16 “You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn {bushes} nor figs from thistles, are they?
Mat 7:17 “So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit.
Mat 7:18 “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
Mat 7:19 “Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Mat 7:20 “So then, you will know them by their fruits.
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven {will enter.}
Mat 7:22 “Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
Mat 7:23 “And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
So I say, we will know if Choo Nam is real or not by her Fruits.
My interaction with her has shown me that she is deeply in love with Jesus and has a passion for the lost. She believes in the the gospel and that what she is preaching.
As I have studied more, I find Jesus saying things like
The way is narrow.
Those that do the work of God will be saved
The story of the seed on a path clearly tells of some that will accept the word of god, and fall away due to the love of the world.
Choo Nam’s message from Jesus says “Hey, wake up! You can’t love the world and me at the same time. Serve Jesus before it is to late”
1Th 5:20 do not despise prophetic utterances.
1Th 5:21 But examine everything {carefully;} hold fast to that which is good;
As far as Choo Nam telling about how Christ said he would bless her, well, lets remember Solomon, or David, or may other characters in the Bible who had great wealth and blessing. It was not their choice, but Gods.
All I can say is that this book has made me walk closer to Jesus and have a real hear for the lost. I now look at people as a soul. There was nothing that she is saying that is not biblical in my opinion. To accept Christ and continue in sin shows that the conversion may be in question I think. We will be known by our fruits.
God Bless you all.
Friday, July 18, 2008
Maranatha - Come Lord Jesus
Allan Says:
I must say that a lot written here is Biblical and correct but there are a lot of questions.
When i was young i try to be a medium and i was asked to stand a certain way to wait for the spirit to come. when it does the common manifestation is shaking - same with those during Thaipusam - an Indian festivals - the nine emperor god festival - etc. i check the bible and the original word for shaking is - use as one tremble in fear before the Almighty God.
I just cannot comprehend how is it one can be in the presence of God and be so physical and ‘pally’ with the Almighty.
Jesus taught her to always praise the Father then pray in tongues…
Jesus already taught us the pattern of prayer - but in Matthew He never mention speaking in tounges… by the way i do speak in tounges. Paul teach that it is better to pray with audible words.
Talking about going to heaven and seeing hell - the bible says there will be a new heaven and a new earth - so what heaven is Choo seeing now? Are non-Christians already in Hell? They are not even judge yet - why are we judging them and condemn them to hell now? Yes one day they will all be standing before the Great White Throne.
I read the book with lots of questions - if God is the one behind the book - why is He doing something so different from those He inspired to write the Holy Bible? Choo claiming that she have to write exactly what she see and heard - what is she trying to tell us? - Don’t You Dare Question What Is Written? Is there going to be new revelations???
There are so much repetitions again and again - to me this is just to give length to the book and a lot of claims - like Jesus telling her - to put her picture on the cover, how the cover of the book should be is just ways to rationalise what the book.
Many of us have honestly seek the Lord and wanting to have a glimpse of Him - is God so bias and count us so unworthy children that He choose this sweetheart???
I read this book in two days but I take 2 years trying to read through my Bible - Surely Satan is not tempting me and making me sleep to read such sensationalise stories.
Let’s go back to basics - Live a Purpose Driven Life of Worship, Discipleship, Fellowship, Service and Mission - Read your Bible more.
Maranatha - Come Lord Jesus!!!
I must say that a lot written here is Biblical and correct but there are a lot of questions.
When i was young i try to be a medium and i was asked to stand a certain way to wait for the spirit to come. when it does the common manifestation is shaking - same with those during Thaipusam - an Indian festivals - the nine emperor god festival - etc. i check the bible and the original word for shaking is - use as one tremble in fear before the Almighty God.
I just cannot comprehend how is it one can be in the presence of God and be so physical and ‘pally’ with the Almighty.
Jesus taught her to always praise the Father then pray in tongues…
Jesus already taught us the pattern of prayer - but in Matthew He never mention speaking in tounges… by the way i do speak in tounges. Paul teach that it is better to pray with audible words.
Talking about going to heaven and seeing hell - the bible says there will be a new heaven and a new earth - so what heaven is Choo seeing now? Are non-Christians already in Hell? They are not even judge yet - why are we judging them and condemn them to hell now? Yes one day they will all be standing before the Great White Throne.
I read the book with lots of questions - if God is the one behind the book - why is He doing something so different from those He inspired to write the Holy Bible? Choo claiming that she have to write exactly what she see and heard - what is she trying to tell us? - Don’t You Dare Question What Is Written? Is there going to be new revelations???
There are so much repetitions again and again - to me this is just to give length to the book and a lot of claims - like Jesus telling her - to put her picture on the cover, how the cover of the book should be is just ways to rationalise what the book.
Many of us have honestly seek the Lord and wanting to have a glimpse of Him - is God so bias and count us so unworthy children that He choose this sweetheart???
I read this book in two days but I take 2 years trying to read through my Bible - Surely Satan is not tempting me and making me sleep to read such sensationalise stories.
Let’s go back to basics - Live a Purpose Driven Life of Worship, Discipleship, Fellowship, Service and Mission - Read your Bible more.
Maranatha - Come Lord Jesus!!!
Thursday, July 17, 2008
Never Take Salvation Lightly
patriot Says:
I am halfway reading the book and although I am a little bit skeptical about her experiences but I know she is not seeking personal fame and glory. It has certainly awaken me as a Christian. Never take our salvation lightly, even though we are saved by grace not work. Whether she is telling the truth or not, we will know when the End is really here!
I am halfway reading the book and although I am a little bit skeptical about her experiences but I know she is not seeking personal fame and glory. It has certainly awaken me as a Christian. Never take our salvation lightly, even though we are saved by grace not work. Whether she is telling the truth or not, we will know when the End is really here!
Wednesday, July 16, 2008
A Divine Revelation of Hell
JFJY Says:
Read Mary Baxter’s book “A Divine Revelation of Hell” .
Also incredible to comprehend. But our limited minds cannot comprehend such things, which, can only be accepted in faith. It does not change my faith to believe in something else other than the Jesus I know in scriptures, it just means that the spirit realm is beyond our full comprehension, quality and quantity.
Another verse/s to show that at disciples’ time, this was new…From Amplified Ver.
1DO NOT let your hearts be troubled (distressed, agitated). You believe in and adhere to and trust in and rely on God; believe in and adhere to and trust in and rely also on Me.
2In My Father’s house there are many dwelling places (homes). If it were not so, I would have told you; for I am going away to prepare a place for you.
3And when (if) I go and make ready a place for you, I will come back again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also.
Interesting that these two women of God recvd it around the same time…
all within past ten or so yrs...One heaven, One hell.
starhawk Says:
Yeah… and Mary Baxter also has written the Divine Revelation of Heaven. Check out the book.
miche Says:
If I’m not mistaken, Baxter went to heaven in 1976. Choo in 1996.
Hmm…I wonder whether the Lord will take us all there in 2016???
Read Mary Baxter’s book “A Divine Revelation of Hell” .
Also incredible to comprehend. But our limited minds cannot comprehend such things, which, can only be accepted in faith. It does not change my faith to believe in something else other than the Jesus I know in scriptures, it just means that the spirit realm is beyond our full comprehension, quality and quantity.
Another verse/s to show that at disciples’ time, this was new…From Amplified Ver.
1DO NOT let your hearts be troubled (distressed, agitated). You believe in and adhere to and trust in and rely on God; believe in and adhere to and trust in and rely also on Me.
2In My Father’s house there are many dwelling places (homes). If it were not so, I would have told you; for I am going away to prepare a place for you.
3And when (if) I go and make ready a place for you, I will come back again and will take you to Myself, that where I am you may be also.
Interesting that these two women of God recvd it around the same time…
all within past ten or so yrs...One heaven, One hell.
starhawk Says:
Yeah… and Mary Baxter also has written the Divine Revelation of Heaven. Check out the book.
miche Says:
If I’m not mistaken, Baxter went to heaven in 1976. Choo in 1996.
Hmm…I wonder whether the Lord will take us all there in 2016???
Tuesday, July 15, 2008
“Heaven Is So Real” does not claim to be Scripture
Palary Says:
Is there such thing as “disobedient Christian” that will spent their eternity on a barren land? Such Theology is a sign of lack of understanding of the Bible.
JFJY Says:
Remember the words of Jesus, when He said in Matt 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, รข€˜Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?" Then I will tell them plainly, "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"
Palary Says:
But that what Choo Thomas mentioned she saw in heaven,’Disobedient’ Christian who will spent their eternity in a barren land. This is a contradiction to Scripture. There is no such classes of True Believer. Either Thomas were having illusion or she was misled by some angel of light. There are only believer and unbelievers. And there are only heaven and hell. No such middle place meant for disobedient Christian!
Starhawk Says:
Palary.. can you find the verses in Scripture that directly contradicts the barren land? What we know about heaven and hell from Scripture is so little, which is enough for our faith. Some are given more but are not allowed by God to write it in the Bible. Refer to Daniel and even Paul.
I think we may be too carried away with this issue. The book “Heaven Is So Real” does not claim to be Scripture. And it is not Scripture. It is a testimony of one who claimed to be taken to heaven. The emphasis of the book is that Heaven is real and Jesus is coming soon. The book should motivate us to get right with God, to obey Him and be prepared of His Second Coming. It is no point to argue whether the book is right or wrong if we do not even try to obey God.
Is there such thing as “disobedient Christian” that will spent their eternity on a barren land? Such Theology is a sign of lack of understanding of the Bible.
JFJY Says:
Remember the words of Jesus, when He said in Matt 7:21-23, “Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord," will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, รข€˜Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?" Then I will tell them plainly, "I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"
Palary Says:
But that what Choo Thomas mentioned she saw in heaven,’Disobedient’ Christian who will spent their eternity in a barren land. This is a contradiction to Scripture. There is no such classes of True Believer. Either Thomas were having illusion or she was misled by some angel of light. There are only believer and unbelievers. And there are only heaven and hell. No such middle place meant for disobedient Christian!
Starhawk Says:
Palary.. can you find the verses in Scripture that directly contradicts the barren land? What we know about heaven and hell from Scripture is so little, which is enough for our faith. Some are given more but are not allowed by God to write it in the Bible. Refer to Daniel and even Paul.
I think we may be too carried away with this issue. The book “Heaven Is So Real” does not claim to be Scripture. And it is not Scripture. It is a testimony of one who claimed to be taken to heaven. The emphasis of the book is that Heaven is real and Jesus is coming soon. The book should motivate us to get right with God, to obey Him and be prepared of His Second Coming. It is no point to argue whether the book is right or wrong if we do not even try to obey God.
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Friday, July 11, 2008
Read the Book FIRST!
Starhawk Says:
Wow… there seems to be a controversy here about the book, Heaven is So Real. I would suggest that everyone read the book FIRST. I read the book and I would say that God ministered to me through the book. The purpose of the book is to let us know that heaven is real. And only those who are ready will enter heaven.
Fongling’s “article” mentioned about the issue on how to enter heaven, … “as she keeps promoting the idea that entrance into heaven is contingent upon works.” I don’t find that the book did what the writer of the article suggested. Yes, it is by faith in Christ that we are saved. But the basic point is that we can enter heaven with a pure heart. The preliminary of having accepted Christ must be done (Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life). Then, one must work one’s own salvation… ie. obeying the commands of Christ. The Bible also said that no adulterers, fornicators, idolaters, or those living a life of witchcraft, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy, drunkenness, orgies….. these people will not inherit the Kingdom of God. - Galatians 5: 19-21. Mind you that these warnings are written for the Christians in Galatia.
As for Jesus’s eating and grilling fish…. that should not be a surprise as that what was Jesus did on earth. Jesus said that He went to heaven to prepare a mansion for us. A mansion should include various rooms and furnitures and decorations, and definitely a place for us to stay. We should not have the narrow mindset that when we are in heaven, we will be worshiping God 24 hours a day forever. This is not written in the Bible but only in the song “Amazing Grace”.
Jesus said that when He comes again, will He finds faith? This is for the Christians… who must not only confessed Jesus is Lord, but also live a life of trusting God.
Read the book first before you read the various articles on the book. Don’t let other people’s thoughts become your thoughts when you have not read the book. As for me, I hope God will minister to you through that book, and any other books for that matter.
h4h4g1rl Says:
Yeah… you go starhawk!!!!! I sooooooooo agree with you, wkakakakkakakakak and I don’t really care if that book is a fiction or a reality, but the most important is, that book change my life. I love Jesus even more, I trying to learn more about the bible, and more other changes in my life. That book really change my life and its not only my life, but also all my friends and family’s life who read it. So i think, you guys must read it too, its a very good book. Even if you don’t believe it, just try to read it once first. hehehehe… GBU!! ^^
Wow… there seems to be a controversy here about the book, Heaven is So Real. I would suggest that everyone read the book FIRST. I read the book and I would say that God ministered to me through the book. The purpose of the book is to let us know that heaven is real. And only those who are ready will enter heaven.
Fongling’s “article” mentioned about the issue on how to enter heaven, … “as she keeps promoting the idea that entrance into heaven is contingent upon works.” I don’t find that the book did what the writer of the article suggested. Yes, it is by faith in Christ that we are saved. But the basic point is that we can enter heaven with a pure heart. The preliminary of having accepted Christ must be done (Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life). Then, one must work one’s own salvation… ie. obeying the commands of Christ. The Bible also said that no adulterers, fornicators, idolaters, or those living a life of witchcraft, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy, drunkenness, orgies….. these people will not inherit the Kingdom of God. - Galatians 5: 19-21. Mind you that these warnings are written for the Christians in Galatia.
As for Jesus’s eating and grilling fish…. that should not be a surprise as that what was Jesus did on earth. Jesus said that He went to heaven to prepare a mansion for us. A mansion should include various rooms and furnitures and decorations, and definitely a place for us to stay. We should not have the narrow mindset that when we are in heaven, we will be worshiping God 24 hours a day forever. This is not written in the Bible but only in the song “Amazing Grace”.
Jesus said that when He comes again, will He finds faith? This is for the Christians… who must not only confessed Jesus is Lord, but also live a life of trusting God.
Read the book first before you read the various articles on the book. Don’t let other people’s thoughts become your thoughts when you have not read the book. As for me, I hope God will minister to you through that book, and any other books for that matter.
h4h4g1rl Says:
Yeah… you go starhawk!!!!! I sooooooooo agree with you, wkakakakkakakakak and I don’t really care if that book is a fiction or a reality, but the most important is, that book change my life. I love Jesus even more, I trying to learn more about the bible, and more other changes in my life. That book really change my life and its not only my life, but also all my friends and family’s life who read it. So i think, you guys must read it too, its a very good book. Even if you don’t believe it, just try to read it once first. hehehehe… GBU!! ^^
Thursday, July 10, 2008
Paradise before Heaven?
Anonymous Says:
God allows many things (good/bad). It clearly says in the Bible that those who died, died and will not have the opportunity to come back to tell others about what they see…also, when we die, we don’t go straight to heaven, we go to paradise just like Lazarus and the Rich Man did. We only rise up to heaven on the Judgement Day …I really don’t believe her, though this might sound bias because I haven’t even read her book. But it really doesn’t matter, whether what she wrote has some truth or purely fiction, the fact remains that we need to prepare ourselves and our loved ones for His coming.
God allows many things (good/bad). It clearly says in the Bible that those who died, died and will not have the opportunity to come back to tell others about what they see…also, when we die, we don’t go straight to heaven, we go to paradise just like Lazarus and the Rich Man did. We only rise up to heaven on the Judgement Day …I really don’t believe her, though this might sound bias because I haven’t even read her book. But it really doesn’t matter, whether what she wrote has some truth or purely fiction, the fact remains that we need to prepare ourselves and our loved ones for His coming.
Wednesday, July 9, 2008
Angel, Powder Room, 15 years old Body
h4h4g1rl Says:
Fongling : Where did you get this article from?? I don’t believe any word in that article. And the angel things, I think that person who write the article is misread the book or something because in my understanding of that book is, the angel disguise (this word not exactly showing what I mean, I just can’t find any other English word that fit, my English is not very good) into a man and a woman, and not saying that angel have gender.
And about the powder room, why it is garbage? I don’t understand, I think it is ok to have a powder room in heaven.
And at the second last paragraph the writer is misread again because in the book it said that her TRANSFORMATION BODY look like when she was 15, but she go to heaven at 1996, when she already is a grandmother.
But I also don’t know if the book is written a reality or not but I’m 100% believe in that book, because that book doesn’t teach anything bad, and I believe if that book isn’t real, God will never let it become an international best seller and make it translate in many language. I’ve seen a proof when somebody use God name to lie, it did NOT end up well.
Fongling : Where did you get this article from?? I don’t believe any word in that article. And the angel things, I think that person who write the article is misread the book or something because in my understanding of that book is, the angel disguise (this word not exactly showing what I mean, I just can’t find any other English word that fit, my English is not very good) into a man and a woman, and not saying that angel have gender.
And about the powder room, why it is garbage? I don’t understand, I think it is ok to have a powder room in heaven.
And at the second last paragraph the writer is misread again because in the book it said that her TRANSFORMATION BODY look like when she was 15, but she go to heaven at 1996, when she already is a grandmother.
But I also don’t know if the book is written a reality or not but I’m 100% believe in that book, because that book doesn’t teach anything bad, and I believe if that book isn’t real, God will never let it become an international best seller and make it translate in many language. I’ve seen a proof when somebody use God name to lie, it did NOT end up well.
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Tuesday, July 8, 2008
Save your money. Read the BIBLE.
fongling Says:
i agree Christ is coming soon.
heard about this book, Heaven is So Real. haven’t read it myself .
here is some review written by others …
Save your money. Read the BIBLE. satan possesses the ability to transform his appearance into that of an angel of light. While Choo Nam may have had multiple encounters with a spirit being, clearly that being was NOT the Lamb of God. Furthermore, it doesn’t sound as though she has ever heard the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, as she keeps promoting the idea that entrance into heaven is contingent upon works. The God of Heaven has NO interest in making human beings “famous”, which is what Choo Nam claims was promised her. This fame is the customary promise of the devil. And lastly, Jesus blood purchased a bride, not children. SAVE YOUR MONEY. If you want to know about heaven, read Betty Malz’ “My Glimpse of Eternity” or “Close Encounters of the God Kind” by Jesse DuPlantis.
Someone passed me a copy and I happened to read the loose message from Choo Thomas to pastors and readers. How she claims that it is God’s end time book and that He wants all to read it, instead of the Bible. This is the first hint at what leads me to believe that all that is written is pure imagination! She claims that God likes to barbecue and eat fish in heaven (pages 96 - 98); I thought that we are spirit in heaven; she even goes to a powder room with Jesus to change their clothes and crowns in heaven - garbage! She talks about male and female angels - Jesus taught us that angels don’t have gender. The only thing that is real is that she shakes violently before she goes into the other realm - just like a spirit medium! It is so subtle - she keeps quoting the Bible, to lend credibility to her story. She teaches that none of our salvations are secure until the end - that we must do our best while we have the time.
She should - we all should read Revelations 22:18-19: “I John solemnly warn everyone who hears the prophetic words of this book; if any add anything to them, God will add to their punishment the plagues described in this book. And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book”
I am curious as to how she started going to heaven at 15, became a christian in 1992 and is a grandmother in 2003!
It makes one wonder about the theology and doctrine of a lot of the leaders who have recommended the book - it exploits christians’ guilibility and desperation to know about heaven and hell, which are real alright. You can read it but don’t believe it!
i agree Christ is coming soon.
heard about this book, Heaven is So Real. haven’t read it myself .
here is some review written by others …
Save your money. Read the BIBLE. satan possesses the ability to transform his appearance into that of an angel of light. While Choo Nam may have had multiple encounters with a spirit being, clearly that being was NOT the Lamb of God. Furthermore, it doesn’t sound as though she has ever heard the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, as she keeps promoting the idea that entrance into heaven is contingent upon works. The God of Heaven has NO interest in making human beings “famous”, which is what Choo Nam claims was promised her. This fame is the customary promise of the devil. And lastly, Jesus blood purchased a bride, not children. SAVE YOUR MONEY. If you want to know about heaven, read Betty Malz’ “My Glimpse of Eternity” or “Close Encounters of the God Kind” by Jesse DuPlantis.
Someone passed me a copy and I happened to read the loose message from Choo Thomas to pastors and readers. How she claims that it is God’s end time book and that He wants all to read it, instead of the Bible. This is the first hint at what leads me to believe that all that is written is pure imagination! She claims that God likes to barbecue and eat fish in heaven (pages 96 - 98); I thought that we are spirit in heaven; she even goes to a powder room with Jesus to change their clothes and crowns in heaven - garbage! She talks about male and female angels - Jesus taught us that angels don’t have gender. The only thing that is real is that she shakes violently before she goes into the other realm - just like a spirit medium! It is so subtle - she keeps quoting the Bible, to lend credibility to her story. She teaches that none of our salvations are secure until the end - that we must do our best while we have the time.
She should - we all should read Revelations 22:18-19: “I John solemnly warn everyone who hears the prophetic words of this book; if any add anything to them, God will add to their punishment the plagues described in this book. And if any take anything away from the prophetic words of this book, God will take away from them their share of the fruit of the tree of life and of the Holy City, which are described in this book”
I am curious as to how she started going to heaven at 15, became a christian in 1992 and is a grandmother in 2003!
It makes one wonder about the theology and doctrine of a lot of the leaders who have recommended the book - it exploits christians’ guilibility and desperation to know about heaven and hell, which are real alright. You can read it but don’t believe it!
Saturday, July 5, 2008
Saving Our Loved Ones
h4h4g1rl Says:
i’ve read that book; Heaven is So Real. its scare me. the time is really soon, and i know i MUST save my loved one. but how? i don’t know how to tell them. they all laugh at me. they said that heaven isn’t real. i’m desprate, frustrated. because i know the time isn’t much, and if i can’t save them before the time come, they all will burn at eternal fire. hiks…
starhawk Says:
h4h4girl, i’ve read that book too. Agree that Christ is coming soon and would want my loved ones to know Christ too. But we can’t save our loved ones, we can only tell, share, encourage or plead with them. It is God who does the convincing and convicting. But if they delayed or refused to believe, there’s nothing much we can do. Love them and continue to pray for them as long as it takes. h4h4girl…. if you read this comment please do pray for my loved ones too. Thanks.
teadog Says:
yeah…our role is to tell and share…conviction will be from God
h4h4g1rl Says:
dear starhawk : of course i will pray for your loved one. i know sharing is the only thing i can do. but it makes me really sad when they rejecting what i said to them, it hurt me when they laugh at me. some of them even say a horrible thing about our Lord, Jesus christ. it wasn’t what they said to me that hurt me, but the place that i know where they will go that hurt me. i love them! i don’t what it happening to them. but i finish that book today and i’m not afraid anymore, there’s no time for me to be sad or scare, i must share as much as i can. but i’m a shy person, so please help me to pray so i can have the power and confident to share to a lot of people, and even stanger. ^^ God bless you all… (sorry, my english is not very good… hehehe…)
i’ve read that book; Heaven is So Real. its scare me. the time is really soon, and i know i MUST save my loved one. but how? i don’t know how to tell them. they all laugh at me. they said that heaven isn’t real. i’m desprate, frustrated. because i know the time isn’t much, and if i can’t save them before the time come, they all will burn at eternal fire. hiks…
starhawk Says:
h4h4girl, i’ve read that book too. Agree that Christ is coming soon and would want my loved ones to know Christ too. But we can’t save our loved ones, we can only tell, share, encourage or plead with them. It is God who does the convincing and convicting. But if they delayed or refused to believe, there’s nothing much we can do. Love them and continue to pray for them as long as it takes. h4h4girl…. if you read this comment please do pray for my loved ones too. Thanks.
teadog Says:
yeah…our role is to tell and share…conviction will be from God
h4h4g1rl Says:
dear starhawk : of course i will pray for your loved one. i know sharing is the only thing i can do. but it makes me really sad when they rejecting what i said to them, it hurt me when they laugh at me. some of them even say a horrible thing about our Lord, Jesus christ. it wasn’t what they said to me that hurt me, but the place that i know where they will go that hurt me. i love them! i don’t what it happening to them. but i finish that book today and i’m not afraid anymore, there’s no time for me to be sad or scare, i must share as much as i can. but i’m a shy person, so please help me to pray so i can have the power and confident to share to a lot of people, and even stanger. ^^ God bless you all… (sorry, my english is not very good… hehehe…)
Friday, July 4, 2008
Not Prepared
aMuse Says:
Am not prepared at all …
miche Says:
ya. me too. sad ah that so many of us are not prepared :(
rather than feeling miserable, let’s do something about it. get prepared. :)
teadog Says:
i am so not prepared…it’s a good reminder but can’t help but to feel a little sceptical about the book and her testimony though.
miche Says:
ya, i also feel the same about the book. doubt it a bit. but one thing for sure that the 2nd coming of Christ is soon and we have to live our life as though that He is coming 2moro. (i’m actually telling myself!) remember the girl guides moto “Be Prepared”?
aneki Says:
I’m not uhh..prepared. When I was still little, I went to a protestant school and they never gave us such “strict” stuff to read. I didn’t know those kind of things are even in the bible. Tough.
Am not prepared at all …
miche Says:
ya. me too. sad ah that so many of us are not prepared :(
rather than feeling miserable, let’s do something about it. get prepared. :)
teadog Says:
i am so not prepared…it’s a good reminder but can’t help but to feel a little sceptical about the book and her testimony though.
miche Says:
ya, i also feel the same about the book. doubt it a bit. but one thing for sure that the 2nd coming of Christ is soon and we have to live our life as though that He is coming 2moro. (i’m actually telling myself!) remember the girl guides moto “Be Prepared”?
aneki Says:
I’m not uhh..prepared. When I was still little, I went to a protestant school and they never gave us such “strict” stuff to read. I didn’t know those kind of things are even in the bible. Tough.
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